Wednesday, December 30, 2009
Reunion Planning Post #7
Friday, December 11, 2009
1607th ATW patch
Her email is fogdill@verizon.net.
Cal Taylor
Wednesday, December 9, 2009
Letter in AF Mag
Monday, December 7, 2009
Master model builder
http://www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/park.htm
Look at the Corsair and Mustang that he built.
Cal Taylor
Tuesday, December 1, 2009
Reunion Planning Post #6
(PF = Pet Friendly) (Dupont Hwy is Rt 13)
USAF Billeting Office Dover AFB for Eagles' Rest
Call 302-677-2840 or 2841
Best Western Galaxy Inn 1700 E. Lebanon Rd. 302-735-4700
(across Hwy 113/Rt 1 from North Gate of the Base)
Comfort Inn of Dover (PF) 222 S. Dupont Hwy. 302-674-3300
Comfort Suites (PF) 1654 N. Dupont Hwy. 302-736-1204
Country Inn & Suites 764 Leipsic Rd. 302-667-0505
Days Inn 272 N. Dupont Hwy. 302-674-8002
Dover Downs Hotel 1131 N. Dupont Hwy. 800-711-5882
(advise Reservation person you want C-133 Event rates)
Hampton Inn Dover (PF) 1568 N. Dupont Hwy. 302-736-3500
Holiday Inn Express 1780 N. Dupont Hwy. 302-678-0600
Little Creek Inn (PF) 2623 Little Creek Rd. 302-730-1300
MainStay Suites (PF) 201 Stover Blvd 302-678-8383
(New; located on Rt 113 between the Base and downtown,
Ramada Inn 348 N. Dupont Hwy. 302-734-5701
Red Roof Inn 652 N. Dupont Hwy. 302-730-8009
Residence Inn Dover (PF) 600 Jefferic Blvd. 302-677-0777
Sheraton Dover Hotel 1570 N. Dupont Hwy. 302-678-8500
Sleep Inn & Suites (PF) 1784 N. Dupont Hwy. 877-424-6423
Super 8 Motel 348 N. Dupont Hwy. 302-734-5701
Fairfield Inn & Suites, 655 N. Dupont Hwy., 302-677-0900
Sunday, November 29, 2009
Reunion Planning Post #5
We don't plan to publish an "expected attendee's" list, but some of you are interested in who's planning to attend. If you have individual names of your colleagues that you'd like to know about, let me know, and I can tell you if we've heard from them.
Below is a letter to all of you from our Planning Committee Chair, Sandy Sandstrom. It's all about "group rate" accommodations at Dover Downs where we'll have the Banquet. If you want to stay there, you need to confirm reservations ASAP, as they're asking for room guarantees. Let me know if you have questions about accommodations. Separately, I'll also be publishing a list of other local accommodations, but we're not arranging other "group rates." Can't do them all.
Letter from Sandy Sandstrom, Planning Committee Chair:
Here is what we have come up with so far in regards to accommodations.
The hotel rates for Dover Downs are as follows:
Friday $159.00
Sat. $169.00
Sun. $ 125.00
For those that would prefer to stay at Dover Downs, they should call (800) 711-5882 and make their own reservations. Be sure to inform the reservationist that this is for the C-133 event. As an aside, we have 20 rooms already blocked off and we could have more if the crew wants them...but individuals need to make their own guarantee. For those that do stay at Dover Downs, they never have to leave the building. There is a plethora of activities to do, to include several restaurants and of course, the gambling (scan their website below).
Click on the red link for the Dover Downs website, and the guys could use e-mail to reserve the rooms.
That about covers it. I know you will have questions, so we're standing by to try and get those answered.
Skoal,
Sandy
Saturday, November 21, 2009
C-133 Engines
A Boeing B-17 used as the testbed for the Pratt & Whitney T-34 tuboprop engine. In 1945 the U.S. Navy funded the development of a turboprop engine. The T-34 was produced from 1951 to 1960, but never used in a U.S. Navy aircraft. The best known "user" was the Douglas C-133 Cargomaster. Date: 1950 Source: U.S. Navy Naval Aviation News October 1950
Thanks to Andy Fleming for pointing out this interesting post in Wikipedia.
Then Cal Taylor replied that he "used that photo as the header shot in Chapter 6, Engines and Propellers" of his book Remembering an Unsung Giant . And he adds, "That airplane was later restored to a WWII B-17G configuration by an outfit in Florida. Sorry, can't recall their name."
Tuesday, November 3, 2009
November Book of the Month
Suite Française
by Irene Nemirovsky
The Random House Group
In the June 2009 review of The Shameful Peace I raised the question about fiction as truth and its relationship to the telling of history. It turns out that much good history is written within the context of a fictional story. Generally, the story is more interesting for a non-historian; and, the truth is told if the facts are held. The October 2007 review of Life and Fate is a sterling example and I declared it as one of the best novels I had ever read.
However, Debra in a comment about the June review challenged that assumption in a clever way by saying that Suite Française was one the best ever fictional histories that she has read. I could not resist the challenge so I have read it and I am in total agreement about its all-consuming story. Knowing her for some years I never doubted that would be the case. Interestingly, both novels are set in about the same time frame, WWII, and are about the life of the ordinary citizen in France and Russia coping with the War and their vile governments. The authors lived the life they wrote about.
Suite Française is the story of the initial 1940 German occupation of France largely from the viewpoint of the women and families left behind, as most of the men were prisoners or in the Army. Despite Nemirovsky’s Jewish roots, her novel focuses on the fates of the French non-Jews during the War. I was barely into the first story about the evacuation of Paris when I knew I was reading something special. The descriptive prose was Russian in its nature, as the Great Russian novels were Nemirovsky models for a planned 1000 page book encompassing five novels. Note the sarcastic play on Hitler’s 1000 year Reich. Click here for an introspective review of The Third Reich.
Every element of a civilization under stress comes alive under Nemirovsky’s hand. “Christian charity, the compassion of centuries of civilization, fell…. She needed to feed and protect her own children. Nothing else mattered anymore” is an example of the thin line that separates egoism and altruism in society as it is collapsing. The clash becomes palpable as the people become more desperate.
Altruism becomes what it is, a philosophy of misery, suffering, poverty, and the hatred of man for man as civilization is founded on the philosophy of egoism and individual rights. Civilized society endures the false promises of altruism when it can afford them, under wartime stress it cannot, families cannot, and a country cannot. Click here for a full discussion of George Reisman's "Real Right to Medical Care"
The story about the long delayed publication of Suite Française and the author is a story within itself. In 1918 Nemirovsky was a fifteen year old Russian émigré Jew to France turned Catholic; a prolific writer during the lead up to hostilities, married with two children, and subsequently sent to Auschwitz where she died in 1942. Her husband was gassed the same year. Her two young daughters were hidden and survived the War. Since the age of twelve and then for over sixty years, one daughter had the care of her mother’s leather bound notebook with the impression that it was a diary. To her amazement, when finally read, it turned out to be an unfinished novel in meticulous handwriting that, when published, became an immediate world wide best seller.
In reading Suite Française I would suggest that you begin with the appendices, which are from the handwritten notes on the situation in France and her plans for the novel, taken from her notebooks. They begin, “My God, what is this country doing to me? …let us watch as it loses its honour and its life.” Therein, the author bares her personal thoughts during the occupation as she confronts the hypocrisy, the compromises, and the hope.
The translator notes that Nemirovsky was writing from the depths of the French countryside, with a sense of urgent foreboding, nothing but her memory as a source, her immediate family suffering from financial ruin, and with an unknown but suspected dread for the worse. From that comes this most wondrous novel where Nemirovsky turns her truths into fiction to better tell the story of this brutish time in world history. Suite Française is now a well-deserved masterpiece of French literature
Unfortunately, she was able to complete only the first two novels of her planned series of five before her death, but they show the depth of her skill that was lost to mankind as she created, “…one of those rare books that demand to be read.” Suite Française is a most devastating indictment of French morals.
I was somewhat confused about the title so I asked my Nephew who lives in France and speaks like a native Parisian the meaning of it. His response is, “’Suite’ in the French sense means the ‘follow up’ or “what comes after’.” That was Nemirovsky’s fear as she saw the country coldly rejecting her and she would have to harden her heart and wait as would all others.
The novel is at a time and place, the beginning of WWII, when most C-133 crewmembers were young men with some already serving. Again, Debra was correct, it is transfixing and a must read. Enjoy!
Richard Spencer
39th ATS, KDOV
1962-1965
P.S. Go here for complete worldwide reviews in several languages: Suite Française Reviews
P.P.S. Most of the books I review for this site are mainly of interest to C-133 crew members and their experiences. However, the wives of our crew members will enjoy this novel, maybe more so, as it focuses upon the plight of the women and children who are left to cope with the ravages of a war that enters their immediate life. Let me know your thoughts.
Rick Spencer
Saturday, October 31, 2009
Saturday, October 24, 2009
Economic Sophisms
Here's the intro: Some think protectionism is a recent phenomenon beginning with the Great Depression, but it has been with mankind since commerce began and always with the same outcome: higher prices for the consumer and the destruction of a portion of an offending country’s production. With this in mind, what follows is a brief review of Economic Sophisms by the French author Frederic Bastiat an important early critic of this vile practice by political leaders pandering for votes.
Click here to read Rick's full article: Economic Sophisms.
And here's Fred:
Monday, October 19, 2009
TSgt John A. Kitchens
Cal Taylor
Thursday, October 15, 2009
Reunion Planning Post #4
Tuesday, October 13, 2009
Reunion Planning Post #3
Friday, October 9, 2009
Reunion Planning Post #2
Thanks to Cal Taylor website for Unit Patches
Friday/Saturday, May 7-8, 2010
Dover, DE
Hangar Social @ AMC Museum, Friday;
Saturday night banquet @
Dover Downs Hotel & Casino
Time just keeps marching on!!
WE NEED TO KNOW IF WE CAN COUNT ON SEEING YOU AGAIN IN 2010!!!
WE HOPE IT'S ALREADY ON YOUR CALENDAR!
The estimated cost is about $60/person,
(Friday Social & Saturday Banquet only; accommodations not included!)
but some of the expenses are fixed,
SO THE MORE PEOPLE THAT COMMIT EARLY,
THE BETTER THE DEAL FOR ALL!
You'll be receiving a Registration Form soon at your home address (plus one by e-mail if we have one listed for you).
Please complete and return the form either by snail mail or e-mail ASAP!!
THANK YOU!!!
Saturday, September 26, 2009
Rick Spencer Published Again!
Click on the following link to go to:
September 26, 2009
Health Care Promises: What Happens Next?
By Richard L. Spencer
Wednesday, September 16, 2009
Book Recommendation
Tuesday, September 15, 2009
C-133 Design Questions
1. Why did the wing have a 12-degree angle of incidence?
This was because the aft fuselage was so long that, with a smaller AOA, the tail upsweep would have had to be much steeper. Increasing the AOA allowed less upsweep from the bottom of the fuselage to the tail cone.
2. The wing seemed to be located much farther aft that on other airplanes.
The important design consideration is the fore-and-aft relationship of the wing and the tail. The portion forward of the wing could be as long as necessary.
3. Were 4-bladed props ever considered?
Yes, they were. But, they presented a much larger flat-plate area than the 3-bladed props from (per Don Elder) the Curtiss toy company. The three-blade props were more efficient.
Cal Taylor
Saturday, September 5, 2009
C-132
The last chapter in my C-133 book, Remembering the Unsung Giant, gives the basic story of the C-132. Coming soon is a book that goes into the air refueling version. It consists of a 146-page Douglas report about the C-132, including the tanker version, plus two chapters. One is the C-132 chapter from my C-133 book. The other is a history of air refueling that concludes with an alternative history section, written as if the Air Force bought the KC-132 and put it into service. That is all about ready to go to the printer.
Cal Taylor
KC-132 Tanker/Transport
Wednesday, September 2, 2009
September Book of the Month
Smithsonian Books, 2003
Washington and London
It is not often that I would recommend a tabletop book worthy of consideration for C-133 crew members; but, so many of us were raised in the “country” as outdoors men, had minimal modern creature comforts, an early love for hunting and fishing; and spent serious time exploring our then less populated surroundings of the 40’s and 50’s. We were dreamers of a time past and we were explorers of our country’s landscape that still seemed remarkably empty. Imbued with a sense to intellectually and physically conquer the world unknown drew many of us to join the USAF. That same spirit may lead you to read this lavishly illustrated history of America’s first major peaceful military expedition exploring America’s vast land from St. Louis to the Northwest. No exploring party is more famous and their journey is richly reconstructed on its two hundredth anniversary.
Lewis and Clark is a stunning volume resulting from a five-year effort by the author, Carolyn Gilman, to trace and authenticate artifacts from more than fifty lending institutions and individuals throughout the United States. Each page is a visual joy that depicts in great detail the artifacts that include maps, original artwork, and documents. The author’s learned commentary about this renowned expedition vividly details a seemingly impossible trek through a mystical land largely unknown except to the native cultures that existed in a state of near isolation from our burgeoning nation; America’s newly purchased Louisiana Territory.
The Lewis and Clark expedition has become America’s very own epic as it gave us our first insights into territory east of the Alleghenies that we considered empty. Thomas Jefferson stated in his instructions to his Corps of Discovery that the mission was to find a ‘practicable water communication across this continent” and “the names of the nations & their numbers; the extent & limits of their possession; their relations with other tribes of nations: their language, traditions, monuments; their ordinary populations.” Jefferson knew the Expedition would need the goodwill of the natives in order to survive their journey into the uncharted lands of the Louisiana Territory that composed part of his dream of empire.
Thus, America’s history was forever changed by this amazing expedition with its most important objective to find the fabled Northwest Passage for the purposes of commerce. America, then largely an agricultural economy, was foremost a capitalistic country rewarding successful efforts of individual production. That in turn, ensured citizens their utmost personal and economic freedoms. The dream of a Northwest Passage was important, as it would provide more commerce for Jefferson’s expanding empire.
Lewis and Clark is separated into ten chapters each with a great degree of historical interest for those wanting to take this trip through our past. While reading, I could feel and see our country as it existed before the industrial age and before modernity changed the topography. It was a wilderness country of indigenous animals and native cultures. It was magnificent in its expanse and beauty and Gilman is able to portray it in such a manner that the reader becomes a participant. In few other readings over the years have I felt so much a part of the story. I shiver at the winters, I am a part of the hunt, I meet with the Natives, I am tired at the end of the day; and finally, I begin to understand the importance of the trip and the purchase. At the last of the outgoing leg of the journey I see the Pacific and dreaming about that kept me going.
For the reader, it is a romantic trip through our past and one that is worthwhile. It becomes impossible to not feel as if you were a member of this glorious expedition with its vast distances giving rise to many emotions. After all, our military service was ultimately an extension of theirs.
This new land was a different kind of Eden than what was expected for along with its beauty was its tempestuous power. Completion of the trip in 1806 that began in 1804 ushered in a new era for America. The country was now ocean to ocean and within these East/West boundaries and through the creative abilities of the people we increasingly became a world power. Many would say that this geographic area is still our ‘true north’, the heart and soul of our country. I would not disagree, especially after serving with so many of our fellow crewmembers from there.
Enjoy!
Richard Spencer
39th ATS, KDOV, 1962-65
NOTICE!!
Our own 133 Crew Colleague and prolific Book Reviewer, Rick Spencer, is now officially published (somewhere besides this blog!) INTERNATIONALLY in the Canada Free Press!
Medical Freedom for All: A Solution
also, check it out at:
Caesar Rodney Institute
Sunday, August 30, 2009
Correction
Cal Taylor
Thursday, August 20, 2009
Teaser video for last C-133 flight
Click on this link, or copy-and-paste into your browser:
http://vimeo.com/channels/inversionaviation
The copilot was Tom Carlson (Morrie's son), FET was Ken Kozlowksi, pilot was Mike Congdon, maintenance help by Aaron Henderson and Janice Kozlowski was along for the ride.
The air to air shots were done by Mike Leary. The in-cockpit work was done at Anchorage and, I think, by one of the crew enroute. The clip does not use any of the video shot at McChord.
Update Note: Thank you all for your Comments!! It's gratifying to know we have some "listeners!" Obviously we're all sharing the thrill of this video bringing back the memories! If you're not comfortable leaving your e-mail address on this blog, please forward it to me at rehanson342@aol.com so we can be sure we have you in our data base. The only "requirement" is that you have an interest in 133s.....you're part of our family.
Bonus Comment: Check out this website from one of our "family members!"
Saturday, August 15, 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
FLYING GIANTS
I'm sorry I've been unable to access the article itself online, but click on the following red link for the Home Page of the magazine's website: PILOTMAG.
Sunday, July 26, 2009
Reunion Planning Post #1
Friday-Sunday, MAY 7-9, 2010
Dover, DE
Start your planning engines NOW!
Only 40 weeks and counting!
To the next C-133 Crew Reunion!!!!!!
This is when and where most of you told us you wanted it in our survey last winter. Thank you for your great response! We have an active Planning Committee engaged (members listed below). They've had a couple meetings already, and will meet again on August 4th to further consider your wishes and enjoyment. So look for more information in mid-August. Tell anyone you know who may have an interest, and may not be on our e-mail address list.
They've already booked space at Dover Downs Hotel & Casino for the main feature, the Saturday night banquet. Click on the following red link for the Dover Downs website:
Our thanks to the Planning Committee for their commitment to making this the best one ever! We'll see you there!
Vito DiFronzo
Gerry Foss
George McDuffie
Jimmy Nolan
Larry Phillips
Sandy Sandstrom
Jay Schmuckler
Dick Strouse
cell ph: 651-249-9541
e-mail: rehanson342@aol.com
November Book of the Month Update
"The July 25, 2009, edition of the WSJ has an article titled
Friday, July 24, 2009
June Book of the Month Update
Our Reviewer, Rick Spencer, offers the following update relevant to his June Book of the Month, The Shameful Peace:
"I have just finished watching the adaption of Olivia Manning's fictional trilogy of British expatriates during WWII. Her writings are considered the best fictional history about this period of the War and the story line ranges from Romania to Egypt. Manning's writings are based upon her own experiences and begin in 1940 as the Germans were marching freely to their belated victories. The adaption was done by BBC and released in 1987 titled "Fortunes of War" (available on Netflix). I highly recommend it." Rick Spencer Comment
Fortunes of War (TV Series)
Wednesday, July 15, 2009
KC-132 tanker/transport
Sunday, July 12, 2009
Extreme Aerobatics
The airplane is an Edge 540 manufactured in Guthrie , Oklahoma ...... The engine is 540 cubic inches, 10.5:1 Compression ratio, has a Cold Air induction System and is fuel injected. Engine preparation done by Barrett Precision Engines. It makes 320 BHP @ 2850 RPM and weighs 385 lbs. The airplane can fly inverted until it runs out of gas. This is Kirby Chambliss flying it, also a Red Bull pilot and Captain for Southwest Airlines.
Saturday, July 11, 2009
Space Shuttle Landing; Pilot's View
The video attached to this file is an impressive cockpit view of the landing of a space shuttle at Edwards AFB, California to Runway 22 (southwest direction). [As many of you know, if landing in Florida is precluded, the shuttle goes to Edwards, about 90 miles NE of Los Angeles .]
The view is through the cockpit window with a HUD (Head Up Display) superimposed in front of the window. The HUD makes it possible for the astronaut to look out of the space shuttle yet have the relevant information to fly and land in the space shuttle - altitude, speed, on course or not, wings level, etc. (i.e., no need to glance down at his instruments).
The video opens with the space shuttle flying in an easterly direction in preparation to land. There is some light conversation among the crew about a cloud cover - an undercast. You will see the undercast (clouds) at the bottom of the picture with the atmosphere giving off a faint color differentiation and then the darkening shades of blue to dark space.
One crew member is backing up the flying astronaut by reminding him of the next events - important because there is little to no room for error as the space shuttle is one giant glider with no chance to add power or go around.
Just short of 3 minutes into the video one crew member gives the flying astronaut a point when he should start a right turn for the runway. At about 3:10 in the video the astronaut is told he has the 'needle' centered referring to being on course. At about 3:46 the astronaut is told he is at the 90 - referencing the point in the pattern where he is to make a final 90 degree turn to line up with the runway.
Soon after the astronaut calls, "Yeah we have the runway." Look at the upper right corner of the video to see the runway come into view. (The runway is 16,500 feet of cement - 3 miles long.)
The height above the runway makes for a steep descent by commercial airline operations - it is a 19-degree glide slope. A typical airline flies a 2.5 to 3 degree glide slope. Notice how fast the shuttle passes through altitudes and the high approach speed 200 knots..
At one point the flying astronaut makes the point that the wind is greater than anticipated and he knows that could make a difference in the remaining energy to reach the runway. He makes a short correction to a flawless landing.
Enjoy!
Tuesday, June 30, 2009
June Book of the Month
By
Frederic Spotts
Yale University Press, 2008
But, this month I am taking a different tack and one that I hope you enjoy. Those of us who served in the C-133’s during the early 60’s fondly remember our many trips to Chatteroux, France, hopping the train to Paris, spending the nights in the American Hotel for $2.00, and I could go on for some time. But, WWII was only a scant 15 years past and one of the most “inglorious responses to Nazi rule” was still largely unspoken. It was a cloud that we did not know about. It was the shameful story of the French cultural establishment and their collaboration with the Germans in order to live a life of luxury and safety during the occupation of France, especially in Paris. Traitorous collaboration was so conspicuous that a spontaneous purge began the moment allied troops entered Paris resulting in an estimated 1600 summary executions.
In my opinion, the lack of serious study of French history under German rule is second only to the indifference by contemporary scholars to the criminal dimension of Communism. Such blatant absence of academic research undermines the fabric of worldwide democracy. In both examples, it seems telling that the intellectuals aligned themselves with the enemy of humanity rather than their fellow man. Seemingly, they have now chosen a path that hides their cowardly deeds and their involvement in these two movements of such evil that the world still shudders from its content. Why did they do it and why do they deny it?
But, now comes The Shameful Peace by Frederic Spotts casting a brilliant light upon the disgraceful and dishonorable actions of French artists and intellectuals during the Nazi occupation. We can only hope that more such serious studies are to emerge, as they should help citizens of all countries in evaluating their leadership during times of crisis. I considered reviewing it; but I can add nothing to that published in the WSJ by Mark Falcoff of the American Enterprise Institute. I urge you to click on the following red link: "Collaborative Artists: The French cultural establishment's inglorious response to Nazi rule" for his critical examination of this subject. You will not be sorry!
Now, I would like to turn my/your attention to another item of interest as you read history: History as fiction designed to unite us. It was not always that historians tried to tell a dispassionate truth to the reader. They were writing stories, more often than not, to persuade and to unite us around a common theme or cause that they felt important. There is no such thing as a real story. Stories are told or written, not found. Thus, a true story is a virtual contradiction in terms and all are fiction. But, is the truth always fiction or is fiction always the truth? Many say there is no such thing as fiction anymore as anything can happen. I always use September 11, 2001, as an example of fiction that became truth.
The historian’s problem is to always interpret things as they happened but personal experiences often bias his final analysis. So, what is the truth? The truth is more often found if you are familiar with the writer’s life experiences. Thus, in order to better understand history one must know the writer and his connections to the matter that is being examined. For a full discussion of this concept go to: History as Fiction Designed to Unite Us as I think you will enjoy this introductory analysis to historical revisionism. It does ring true as both authors and their subjects are only human and we all know the frailties of each. I know that my life experiences encroach upon my thoughts of what I consider the truth and I bet yours do as well!
Enjoy!
39th ATS, MATS
KDOV, 1962-1965
Friday, June 26, 2009
Comfort & Dull.....not bad!
A C-133 was lumbering along when a cocky F-16 flashed by.
The jet jockey decided to show off.
The fighter jock told the C-133 pilot, 'watch this!' and promptly
went into a barrel roll followed by a steep climb. He then finished
with a sonic boom as he broke the sound barrier. The F-16 pilot
asked the C-133 pilot what he thought of that?
The C-133 pilot said, 'That was impressive, but watch this!'
The C-133 droned along for about 5 minutes and then the C-133
pilot came back on and said: 'What did you think of that?'
Puzzled, the F-16 pilot asked, 'What the heck did you do?'
The C-133 pilot chuckled. 'I stood up, stretched my legs, walked
to the back, went to the bathroom, then got a cup of coffee and a
cinnamon bun.'
When you are young & foolish - speed & flash may seem a good thing !!!
When you get older & smarter - comfort & dull is not such a bad thing !!!
Us old folks understand this one!
Thursday, June 25, 2009
Bigger Than a 747
In the 1930s, the Russian army was obsessed by the idea of creating huge planes. At that time they were proposed to have as many propellers as possible to help carry those huge flying fortresses into the air, jet propulsion had not yet been implemented. Not many photos were saved because of the high secrecy levels of such projects. Still on the photo below you can see one such plane - a heavy bomber K-7.
For more photos and info, click on: Airplane Giant K7