This is a special interest blog targeted for anyone interested in a very special USAF aircraft of days gone by, the C-133 Cargomaster. So this is YOUR blog! The goal is for the blog to take on a "life of its own" through an active dialogue. So add it to your Favorites list and check it out frequently for new Posts......and leave your Comments! Thank you!! Photo of S/N 90536 at Dover AFB, DE.
Thank you for the great response to our request for "Registration" for our May, 2010, Reunion. We've acknowledged responses from 90 of you......84 Yes......6 No. And you've told us to expect 140 people at the Friday "Hangar Social," and 146 at the Saturday Banquet. That's an awesome start!!
We don't plan to publish an "expected attendee's" list, but some of you are interested in who's planning to attend. If you have individual names of your colleagues that you'd like to know about, let me know, and I can tell you if we've heard from them.
Below is a letter to all of you from our Planning Committee Chair, Sandy Sandstrom. It's all about "group rate" accommodations at Dover Downs where we'll have the Banquet. If you want to stay there, you need to confirm reservations ASAP, as they're asking for room guarantees. Let me know if you have questions about accommodations. Separately, I'll also be publishing a list of other local accommodations, but we're not arranging other "group rates." Can't do them all.
Letter from Sandy Sandstrom, Planning Committee Chair:
Here is what we have come up with so far in regards to accommodations.
The hotel rates for Dover Downs are as follows:
Friday$159.00
Sat.$169.00
Sun.$ 125.00
For those that would prefer to stay at Dover Downs, they should call (800) 711-5882 and make their own reservations. Be sure to inform the reservationist that this is for the C-133 event. As an aside, we have 20 rooms already blocked off and we could have more if the crew wants them...but individuals need to make their own guarantee. For those that do stay at Dover Downs, they never have to leave the building.There is a plethora of activities to do, to include several restaurants and of course, the gambling (scan their website below).
Click on the red link for the Dover Downs website, and the guys could use e-mail to reserve the rooms.
That about covers it.I know you will have questions, so we're standing by to try and get those answered.
A Boeing B-17 used as the testbed for the Pratt & Whitney T-34 tuboprop engine. In 1945 the U.S. Navy funded the development of a turboprop engine. The T-34 was produced from 1951 to 1960, but never used in a U.S. Navy aircraft. The best known "user" was the Douglas C-133 Cargomaster.Date: 1950Source: U.S. Navy Naval Aviation News October 1950
Thanks to Andy Fleming for pointing out this interesting post in Wikipedia.
Then Cal Taylor replied that he "used that photo as the header shot in Chapter 6, Engines and Propellers" of his book Remembering an Unsung Giant . And he adds, "That airplane was later restored to a WWII B-17G configuration by an outfit in Florida. Sorry, can't recall their name."
In the June 2009 review of The Shameful Peace I raised the question about fiction as truth and its relationship to the telling of history.It turns out that much good history is written within the context of a fictional story.Generally, the story is more interesting for a non-historian; and, the truth is told if the facts are held.The October 2007 review of Life and Fate is a sterling example and I declared it as one of the best novels I had ever read.
However, Debra in a comment about the June review challenged that assumption in a clever way by saying that Suite Françaisewas one the best ever fictional histories that she has read.I could not resist the challenge so I have read it and I am in total agreement about its all-consuming story.Knowing her for some years I never doubted that would be the case. Interestingly, both novels are set in about the same time frame, WWII, and are about the life of the ordinary citizen in France and Russia coping with the War and their vile governments. The authors lived the life they wrote about.
Suite Françaiseis the story of the initial 1940 German occupation of France largely from the viewpoint of the women and families left behind, as most of the men were prisoners or in the Army. Despite Nemirovsky’s Jewish roots, her novel focuses on the fates of the French non-Jews during the War. I was barely into the first story about the evacuation of Paris when I knew I was reading something special.The descriptive prose was Russian in its nature, as the Great Russian novels were Nemirovsky models for a planned 1000 page book encompassing five novels.Note the sarcastic play on Hitler’s 1000 year Reich. Click here for an introspective review of The Third Reich.
Every element of a civilization under stress comes alive under Nemirovsky’s hand.“Christian charity, the compassion of centuries of civilization, fell…. She needed to feed and protect her own children.Nothing else mattered anymore” is an example of the thin line that separates egoism and altruism in society as it is collapsing. The clash becomes palpable as the people become more desperate.
Altruism becomes what it is, a philosophy of misery, suffering, poverty, and the hatred of man for man as civilization is founded on the philosophy of egoism and individual rights.Civilized society endures the false promises of altruism when it can afford them, under wartime stress it cannot, families cannot, and a country cannot.Click here for a full discussion of George Reisman's "Real Right to Medical Care"
The story about the long delayed publication of Suite Française and the author is a story within itself.In 1918 Nemirovsky was a fifteen year old Russian émigré Jew to France turned Catholic; a prolific writer during the lead up to hostilities, married with two children, and subsequently sent to Auschwitz where she died in 1942. Her husband was gassed the same year.Her two young daughters were hidden and survived the War.Since the age of twelve and then for over sixty years, one daughter had the care of her mother’s leather bound notebook with the impression that it was a diary. To her amazement, when finally read, it turned out to be an unfinished novel in meticulous handwriting that, when published, became an immediate world wide best seller.
In reading Suite Française I would suggest that you begin with the appendices, which are from the handwritten notes on the situation in France and her plans for the novel, taken from her notebooks.They begin, “My God, what is this country doing to me?…let us watch as it loses its honour and its life.”Therein, the author bares her personal thoughts during the occupation as she confronts the hypocrisy, the compromises, and the hope.
The translator notes that Nemirovsky was writing from the depths of the French countryside, with a sense of urgent foreboding, nothing but her memory as a source, her immediate family suffering from financial ruin, and with an unknown but suspected dread for the worse.From that comes this most wondrous novel where Nemirovsky turns her truths into fiction to better tell the story of this brutish time in world history.Suite Française is now a well-deserved masterpiece of French literature
Unfortunately, she was able to complete only the first two novels of her planned series of five before her death, but they show the depth of her skill that was lost to mankind as she created, “…one of those rare books that demand to be read.”Suite Française is a most devastating indictment of French morals.
I was somewhat confused about the title so I asked my Nephew who lives in France and speaks like a native Parisian the meaning of it.His response is, “’Suite’ in the French sense means the ‘follow up’ or “what comes after’.”That was Nemirovsky’s fear as she saw the country coldly rejecting her and she would have to harden her heart and wait as would all others.
The novel is at a time and place, the beginning of WWII, when most C-133 crewmembers were young men with some already serving. Again, Debra was correct, it is transfixing and a must read.Enjoy!
P.P.S. Most of the books I review for this site are mainly of interest to C-133 crew members and their experiences. However, the wives of our crew members will enjoy this novel, maybe more so, as it focuses upon the plight of the women and children who are left to cope with the ravages of a war that enters their immediate life. Let me know your thoughts.
Again, our Crew Colleague/Book Reviewer, Rick Spencer, has been published. This time on the Caeser Rodney Institute website. This is not Rick, it's Caesar!
Here's the intro:Some think protectionism is a recent phenomenon beginning with the Great Depression, but it has been with mankind since commerce began and always with the same outcome: higher prices for the consumer and the destruction of a portion of an offending country’s production. With this in mind, what follows is a brief review of Economic Sophisms by the French author Frederic Bastiat an important early critic of this vile practice by political leaders pandering for votes.
Recently, Bob Hunter contacted me, to dispute the date of death of Sgt Kitchens. Hunter was in MX at Dover until his discharge in Feb 64. He has stated very firmly that Kitchens was killed in the crash of 22 Sep 63, NOT in the Goose crash on 7 Nov 64. My source for the crew list was Part A of the USAF accident investigation board report. If anyone has a primary source that can conclusively negate that report and place Sgt Kitchens on the Sep 63 crash of 71611 , I'd be interested in seeing it. That event was the second of the two C-133s that crashed within the first hour after departing Dover.
IF YOU'VE REPLIED TO OUR E-MAIL REUNION REGISTRATION FORM REQUEST, AND WE'VE ACKNOWLEDGED RECEIPT OF YOUR INFORMATION, THERE'S NO NEED TO RETURN THE PRINTED FORM YOU RECEIVE IN THE MAIL. JUST KEEP THE RED & BLUE COVER SHEET WITH YOUR CALENDAR AS A REMINDER OF THE EVENT.
Several respondents have already asked about the possibility of discounted Group Rates at the Dover Downs Hotel. Our Planning Committee is looking into it, and we'll broadcast what we learn along with contact information for various motels in the Dover area......stay tuned!
I have to most highly recommend this biography of General Marshall. It is exceptionally well-written, telling the story of perhaps the most important man of WWII, whose efforts produced an 8-million man army in 1945, from one of only 150,000 in 1939. Marshall's efforts resulted in the huge logistics system that supported the war effort of the US, England, the Soviet Union and other participants. It is easy to imagine that, with a lesser man in the post of Army Chief of Staff, things could have gone much less satisfactorily. The book deals with the highest levels of planning, procedures and even politics. It has very valuable insights into such leaders as Roosevelt, Churchill and the many men who became the generals of WWII, including Arnold, Ridgeway, Clark, Patton, Montgomery, Wavell and many others.
Last night, I talked for more than an hour with Don Elder, who was an aerodynamics engineer at Douglas. He worked the YC-124B and the C-133. I asked him about several questions that had come to me.
1. Why did the wing have a 12-degree angle of incidence? This was because the aft fuselage was so long that, with a smaller AOA, the tail upsweep would have had to be much steeper. Increasing the AOA allowed less upsweep from the bottom of the fuselage to the tail cone.
2. The wing seemed to be located much farther aft that on other airplanes. The important design consideration is the fore-and-aft relationship of the wing and the tail. The portion forward of the wing could be as long as necessary.
3. Were 4-bladed props ever considered? Yes, they were. But, they presented a much larger flat-plate area than the 3-bladed props from (per Don Elder) the Curtiss toy company. The three-blade props were more efficient.
The last chapter in my C-133 book, Remembering the Unsung Giant, gives the basic story of the C-132. Coming soon is a book that goes into the air refueling version. It consists of a 146-page Douglas report about the C-132, including the tanker version, plus two chapters. One is the C-132 chapter from my C-133 book. The other is a history of air refueling that concludes with an alternative history section, written as if the Air Force bought the KC-132 and put it into service. That is all about ready to go to the printer.
Carolyn Gilman Smithsonian Books, 2003 Washington and London
It is not often that I would recommend a tabletop book worthy of consideration for C-133 crew members; but, so many of us were raised in the “country” as outdoors men, had minimal modern creature comforts, an early love for hunting and fishing; and spent serious time exploring our then less populated surroundings of the 40’s and 50’s. We were dreamers of a time past and we were explorers of our country’s landscape that still seemed remarkably empty. Imbued with a sense to intellectually and physically conquer the world unknown drew many of us to join the USAF. That same spirit may lead you to read this lavishly illustrated history of America’s first major peaceful military expedition exploring America’s vast land from St. Louis to the Northwest. No exploring party is more famous and their journey is richly reconstructed on its two hundredth anniversary.
Lewis and Clark is a stunning volume resulting from a five-year effort by the author, Carolyn Gilman, to trace and authenticate artifacts from more than fifty lending institutions and individuals throughout the United States. Each page is a visual joy that depicts in great detail the artifacts that include maps, original artwork, and documents. The author’s learned commentary about this renowned expedition vividly details a seemingly impossible trek through a mystical land largely unknown except to the native cultures that existed in a state of near isolation from our burgeoning nation; America’s newly purchased Louisiana Territory.
The Lewis and Clark expedition has become America’s very own epic as it gave us our first insights into territory east of the Alleghenies that we considered empty. Thomas Jefferson stated in his instructions to his Corps of Discovery that the mission was to find a ‘practicable water communication across this continent” and “the names of the nations & their numbers; the extent & limits of their possession; their relations with other tribes of nations: their language, traditions, monuments; their ordinary populations.” Jefferson knew the Expedition would need the goodwill of the natives in order to survive their journey into the uncharted lands of the Louisiana Territory that composed part of his dream of empire.
Thus, America’s history was forever changed by this amazing expedition with its most important objective to find the fabled Northwest Passage for the purposes of commerce. America, then largely an agricultural economy, was foremost a capitalistic country rewarding successful efforts of individual production. That in turn, ensured citizens their utmost personal and economic freedoms. The dream of a Northwest Passage was important, as it would provide more commerce for Jefferson’s expanding empire.
Lewis and Clark is separated into ten chapters each with a great degree of historical interest for those wanting to take this trip through our past. While reading, I could feel and see our country as it existed before the industrial age and before modernity changed the topography. It was a wilderness country of indigenous animals and native cultures. It was magnificent in its expanse and beauty and Gilman is able to portray it in such a manner that the reader becomes a participant. In few other readings over the years have I felt so much a part of the story. I shiver at the winters, I am a part of the hunt, I meet with the Natives, I am tired at the end of the day; and finally, I begin to understand the importance of the trip and the purchase. At the last of the outgoing leg of the journey I see the Pacific and dreaming about that kept me going.
For the reader, it is a romantic trip through our past and one that is worthwhile. It becomes impossible to not feel as if you were a member of this glorious expedition with its vast distances giving rise to many emotions. After all, our military service was ultimately an extension of theirs.
This new land was a different kind of Eden than what was expected for along with its beauty was its tempestuous power. Completion of the trip in 1806 that began in 1804 ushered in a new era for America. The country was now ocean to ocean and within these East/West boundaries and through the creative abilities of the people we increasingly became a world power. Many would say that this geographic area is still our ‘true north’, the heart and soul of our country. I would not disagree, especially after serving with so many of our fellow crewmembers from there.
Enjoy!
Reviewed by: Richard Spencer 39th ATS, KDOV, 1962-65
NOTICE!!
Our own 133 Crew Colleague and prolific Book Reviewer, Rick Spencer, is now officially published (somewhere besides this blog!) INTERNATIONALLY in the Canada Free Press!
The info on the post of the C-133 video has the air-to-air photographer incorrect. Greg Sheffer said it was one of his guys, Steve Tader, shooting from a B-25.
Just in from Inversion Productions is a five-minute film clip that is an excellent summary of the last flight of 61999, last August. Great sound, great video. Progress is slow but it's coming along. Turn the sound WAYYYY up!
The copilot was Tom Carlson (Morrie's son), FET was Ken Kozlowksi, pilot was Mike Congdon, maintenance help by Aaron Henderson and Janice Kozlowski was along for the ride.
The air to air shots were done by Mike Leary. The in-cockpit work was done at Anchorage and, I think, by one of the crew enroute. The clip does not use any of the video shot at McChord.
Update Note:Thank you all for your Comments!! It's gratifying to know we have some "listeners!" Obviously we're all sharing the thrill of this video bringing back the memories! If you're not comfortable leaving your e-mail address on this blog, please forward it to me at rehanson342@aol.comso we can be sure we have you in our data base. The only "requirement" is that you have an interest in 133s.....you're part of our family.
Bonus Comment: Check out this website from one of our "family members!"
If you run across this July/August issue of PILOTMAG, check out the article on page 24, "Flying Giants: Story of the C-133 Cargomaster." Contributor Micah Ciampa conducted telephone interviews with Sandy Sandstrom and Yours Truly several months ago, after he discovered this blog. The whole article is based on quotes from the two of us, in spite of the by-line to the story which declares "Two seasoned pilots reminisce about the Douglas C-133 Cargomaster."
I'm sorry I've been unable to access the article itself online, but click on the following red link for the Home Page of the magazine's website: PILOTMAG.
Start your planning engines NOW! Only 40 weeks and counting!
To the next C-133 Crew Reunion!!!!!!
This is when and where most of you told us you wanted it in our survey last winter. Thank you for your great response! We have an active Planning Committee engaged (members listed below). They've had a couple meetings already, and will meet again on August 4th to further consider your wishes and enjoyment. So look for more information in mid-August. Tell anyone you know who may have an interest, and may not be on our e-mail address list.
They've already booked space at Dover Downs Hotel & Casino for the main feature, the Saturday night banquet. Click on the following red link for the Dover Downs website:
Again, our Reviewer, Rick Spencer, adds the following relevant Comment:
"The July 25, 2009, edition of the WSJ has an article titled "The Class of Generals". The West Point class of 1976 produced the generals running the nation's wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as their key deputies. All told, 33 active and retired Generals were among its 855 graduates. Even though the class of 1915 is known as 'the class the stars fell upon' there is an argument that the class of 1976 is becoming just as influential. Maybe, there is a president among them! The article is well worth reading for its human interest as well as it being the first modern generation of officers to enter the Army without serving in Vietnam." Rick Spencer Comment
The LAST, LAST DOVER REUNION in May 2014 looks like it really was the last one! Of course our number of crew colleagues is dwindling, and the energy to plan another real reunion has evaporated.
HOWEVER, a few of us have talked about showing up in Dover together for an informal dinner/gathering sometime in the spring of the New Year, 2016.
If you're interested, please let me know at rehanson342@me.com .
We'll continue to maintain our e-mail list (currently 209 names), and occasionally send out items of common interest like Rick Spencer's notice about the "133s in the Sino-Indian War in 1962" that just went out. If you didn't get it, it might mean we've lost track of your current e-mail address. Let us know any updates.
